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18th August 2008, 03:32 PM
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Is this wrong/cheating?
Is it wrong to say to a short stack 'if you go all in blind then I'll call you blind', only for them to shove and you to then look at your cards?
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18th August 2008, 03:50 PM
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18th August 2008, 03:51 PM
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Not IMO. I think the only time verbal declarations should be binding is when the action is actually on that player.
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18th August 2008, 03:51 PM
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morally yes
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18th August 2008, 03:55 PM
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Though, how about if you say "If you go all in, I might just have to call you blind". Thus covering yourself with the use of the word 'might'...?
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18th August 2008, 03:57 PM
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This isn't uncommon. I might say this without meaning it, then the shortstack shoves...I grin and look at my cards. The table usually laughs.
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18th August 2008, 04:20 PM
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Depends with how much strength you say it. It can easily be construed as a joke or semi-threatening. If I was the short stack I might ask if they agreed to to call blind for sure. Then if they looked I would consider them scummy.
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18th August 2008, 04:53 PM
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I think i'm in the Woody/Dale camp here.
By the by I heard an awesome story about Roberto Rommanello on Friday, quite amusing. He was playing a largish event at the Bellagio lets say a $5k event and on this particular deal had managed to take a quick peek at his cards without anyone seeing (he had A-A). Anyway there's a raise in middle position and it gets to Romanello in the big blind and he starts talking (does he ever stop lol) saying that he was sick of this guy raising and that hehasn't looked and if he likes his first card he's going all-in. So he peeks at one, insta shoves and gets snap called by 9s!
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18th August 2008, 06:04 PM
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i think if someone said i wil call you if you go all in - and then looks at their cards after saying they wont - looks like a weed / weakling as theyre scared to do it lol
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18th August 2008, 07:07 PM
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isn't it ok to say anything, if its either a lie or the truth!
however, scummy is a good term for that play imo
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